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E5: The Power of Periods: Blood, Myth, and the Science of Menstruation
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What if the most misunderstood force in the world was flowing through our bodies every month?
In this episode of Behind the Paddle, we explore the raw, untamed power of menstruation from ancient myths of death and fertility to cutting-edge research in medicine and longevity. Can periods repel natural disasters? Kill with a glance? Or are they simply nature’s most potent secret, dismissed for centuries?
Join us as we unravel the duality of the menstrual cycle its role in both creation and destruction and investigate how this sacred, stigmatised force could revolutionise science, technology, and how we view feminine power itself.
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Speaker 02and I am Emily Sin. And today we're going to be talking about the powers of menstrual blood. Yes. Um, a bit of the myth and legends that have followed uh this throughout the ages and some new technology that is up and coming in this field of research.
Speaker 01Yeah.
Speaker 02So to begin, we are gonna go back to between 23 and 79 AD to I don't want to call him wonderful, but um a Roman naturalist, philosopher, um, and army commander of the early Roman Empire, Pliny, or Pliny the Elder, as he was known, um, his take on menstruation is his his take. Very much his take. To make that very clear right now, um, is that if a woman strips herself naked while she's menstruating and walks around a field of wheat, the caterpillars, worms, beetles, and other vermin will fall off from the ears of corn and die.
Speaker 01I mean that's kind of helpful if you're doing some oudism.
Speaker 02I feel like there's a duality to this, you know, like you win some, you lose some. Um so seeds which are touched by her become sterile, grafts wither away, garden plants are parched up, and the fruit will fall from the tree beneath which she sits.
Speaker 01That's why I've got asteroid in that garden.
Speaker 02A need, not a won't. Young vines, too, it is said, are injured immediately by the touch of a woman in this state, and both Rue and Ivy, plants possessed of highly medicinal virtues, will die instantly upon being touched by her. I don't know about you, but this has never happened to me. No.
Speaker 01I can't say I've went out of my way to try it right enough, but if it were dead, I feel I'd feel a bit magical to be fair. Yeah. If we covered a man in all this stuff, would it affect him as well? He dies.
Speaker 02Oh, we're coming to that later. Um man has got more to say, um, including that natural catastrophes such as hailstorms, whirlwinds, and lightnings could be driven away by a menstruating woman.
Speaker 01Driven away? Yeah. America does not have that many uh periods that are.
Speaker 02Clearly, like there's so many storms. Maybe there's just no tried it. Maybe this is the trick everybody's been missing. What is the trick? I don't know. Walking naked outside Wheelman's train seems to be the only kind of prerequisite.
Speaker 01That covers a whole bunch just walking while you've got your period.
Speaker 02Um I could also sewer crops, wither fruit and vegetables, kill bees, drive dogs insane, dull the brightness of mirrors, blunt razors, turn linens black, and rust iron and bronze.
Speaker 01Turning linen black, that would be very good.
Speaker 02I feel like water saves yourself some money. I could do that. Have you ever found your dogs have turned insane while you're on your PF?
Speaker 01I mean, no, no. They're insane enough, but that's on a daily basis. Never mind just a few days a month.
Speaker 02So this was kind of the running theme of just the opinions of the day back in kind of ancient Roman Greece was that um menstruating women basically just had like the power of life and death, power over nature. Like it's all pretty cool if it was like seen in a good way.
Speaker 01Yeah, yeah. Instead, we're just horrible. We're hell. We're just hell on earth, but we do uh take away the storms and that, right?
Speaker 02Yeah.
Speaker 01So that's a good thing.
Speaker 02There's still like public service going on in there somewhere.
Speaker 01Why are we getting shot on? Why is that the only good thing which is actually really good? Actually, um helping everything.
Speaker 02Farmers mostly. Yeah. Unless we touch their crops.
Speaker 01Yeah, we can't do that. But if we walk around them and just kill all the bugs and that, then oh, do you think that's sort of how crop circles came about? Potentially. So we're just on a cycle, just like I'm gonna doddle around.
Speaker 02I feel like people would probably think it burnt at the stake for doing stuff like that.
Speaker 01But it's like it's not UFOs, it's just the woman in the neighbourhood, that's all.
Speaker 02Um what else is that? So the reason why menstruation is called menstruation um is it's etymologic is etymologically um related to like the moon and the cycles of the moon, and it's kinda linking back in again in nature, which makes sense why they've kinda I don't know what came first, whether it was the moon or the period? No no sorry like the the correlation of periods and the moon and then or the correlation of like periods and nature. Do you know what I mean? Like if that's like all linked in together. Um so menzies means month as well, and then men means moon. So they've kind of come together to create the term menstruation.
Speaker 01Oh that's so weird.
Speaker 02And the moon makes sense, yeah, like a 28-day cycle. Yeah. Like um, it's why there used to be like 13 months in the year, because that was like the moon the lunar cycles rather than like the months that we have today, which are slightly longer. Um but back in the day it was considered really unlucky if like your menstrual cycle didn't sync up like exactly with the lunar cycle, which is just like another way that people were just shitting on us. Yeah, basically. Um I think this is just more about um women using like their periods to um protect crops and stuff like this. This was uh another two like hist historians of the day, like testifying to the efficacy I can't say the word efficacy of this procedure. Um and this is like the instructions given. I don't know, do you want to read that bit?
Speaker 01You shall bless tonight the cornfields. Draw a magic circle round them to protect them from destruction. Hi Blast of mildew be light of insect. Does that say? Does it say insect? Yeah, insect.
Speaker 02Yeah, like a blade of insects is like like a plague locus, sorry. Yeah.
Speaker 01In the night when all is darkness, rise up from your bed in silence. Lay aside your garments. Wally walk around the fields you planted, round the borders of the cornfields, covered with your tresses only, robbed with darkness as a garment for the most part. However, the influence of the period women on vegetation as well. It's it's harmful. Okay. And then it goes on to talk about in ancient Greece women's period blood was considered a cosmic event. Yeah. Okay. Relating and connecting one to the moon and lunar cycles and the tides. Yes. Which is what you've just mentioned. Yeah.
Speaker 02So there was many rituals in like ancient Egypt and stuff as well that involved ingestion of menstrual blood mixed with red wine to increase spiritual power. Um, and even in ancient Greece, um, spring festivals including the spreading of the earth of corn mixed with menstrual blood to increase fertility. So there is always this kind of duality of it being seen as this like like really powerful substance that like could create like vast good or vast harm. Um and that it was something that should be like hidden and controlled because it was chaotic and wild and could like kill a plant just as much as save one. Oh, we're good people, we're good people. Um so even in ancient Rome, well, Dussie, no, don't fuck up this.
Speaker 01So I have one of my dogs here, but otherwise she will just cry and cry. No, it doesn't matter. She's very interested in the mics and snug on our faces. Um yeah, what else is there?
Speaker 02Um yeah, so menstrual blood was treated very ambiguously, as we were saying, um, and was considered to have like a healing effect and was used to like produce drugs for women, but not for men. It was seen as like impure and nasty, basically. Men should not touch. Um, so the healing effects of it were kinda like recognised, but again, it was only used in certain situations, and in others it was impure and negative.
Speaker 01I feel like that it it's still taboo to this day when men won't touch women when they're on their period and stuff.
Speaker 02And all of that has roots in this, like just the kind of myths and legends that have followed it throughout the ages, and like religious kind of takes on it and stuff of just like heavily influenced people's kind of view on things these days. Um which I find it's always like helpful and interesting to know where all these things come from because it like helps you to get a better understanding and like make your own opinion without these things attached once you're aware of them. Um, which is one of the reasons why I thought it would be good for us to chat about. Yeah, because there's so much stigma attached. Oh, absolutely, and when you look at the reasons why, like some of the stuff we've already spoken about, it's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 01It is, yeah, it's exactly what I was about to say. It's so ridiculous, just like doing bad to crops and all sorts like that, and it's like nah mate, we just we just bleed as this like an actual biological scientific freaking reason. Yeah, it's not any of this, we're not like witches or anything. Like we we just bleed, man, is is the uterus and all that stuff.
Speaker 02So speaking of religion, um even now in some religious sects, not all of them, it's more in like the kind of traditionally held views um of certain religions where um women aren't allowed in the place of worship while they're menstruating and they're not allowed to like take part in any like rituals or um like communions or anything like that while they're on their periods to this day. I've heard of this. What religion is that? Um there's quite a few. I know like my brain's went blank.
Speaker 01No, there is quite a few. It's crazy that still that still goes on.
Speaker 02Yeah, like I know like Orthodox Judaism, I think's one where that's still practiced in some um Hello Tootsie.
Speaker 01Oh my god, no, you're a menace. We we have a new sofa, so she's with it and this is the first time of her being alone. Yeah, she's like, I'm alone on the sofa. I can just do the worm and wiggle. Hello, show axe, you can like me. She's like, I'm Portuguese, mate. There's no relax. Tussie, tussy. Yeah, so religion. Yeah, crazy, crazy. Even to this day, we are like what's the word?
Speaker 02Seen as like unclean. That's the that's the kind of the run-in theme. But the kind of reason behind that, which is really interesting, is it's seen as like there's such power in menstrual blood that it can like negate the like religious powers, which is why it's not allowed in like ceremonies and rituals and stuff, because they think that it's gonna like tarnish the purity or something. Yeah, literally, that it's impure and like it has more power in that sense than like what they're doing does, and it's gonna like trumpet essentially, which is wild.
Speaker 01Like I'm sure all the priests uh can agree on that. Yeah, that's the impure part, in there.
Speaker 02Um of the other beliefs of the church back in the day was that it could damage the penis on contact, um, which is why couples should refrain from any sexual intercourse during this time. And uh any children born to them would be red-haired and puny.
Speaker 00Red haired and puny.
Speaker 01Aww. Bless all the gingers in the world.
Speaker 02That's the reason, clearly. We've cracked it.
Speaker 01That's it. Oh, and the brighter the hair, the closer to like um God.
Speaker 02No.
Speaker 01Maybe they'll be like in churches and stuff, yeah. Well, like I was gonna say, like uh near the end or the start of the cycle, depends on the hair colour.
Speaker 02Yeah, the further in you're the darker the more. Yeah.
Speaker 01That makes sense.
Speaker 02Um, they also believed that a child in a cradle could be poisoned by the gaze of an old pre-menopausal woman whose accumulation of blood would lead to poisonous vapours being given off by her eyes. Fucking vapor.
Speaker 00Virtual laser eyes.
Speaker 01Like and what what like happens to the baby?
Speaker 02Dead. Oh, just dead. Jeez. Poisonous vapours? You're not surviving that.
Speaker 01Oh, that's so sad. Just that we're so victimized.
Speaker 02No, this is like leading into like the old crone witch thing again, you know, it's because it's pre-menopausal, so this is like some like yeah, yeah. This is like envious of like the child, you know. That's the vibe.
Speaker 01You have you if I do not. So I shall just kill you with my eyes.
Speaker 02But this is again like they thought that um people having their period was like getting rid of the excess blood. So obviously, when your period stops, you accumulate like all this power within you to the point that you can just kill people with a look, you know, like oh I wish this was true.
Speaker 01This would be great. Um in my head now, I'm like, how would I get away with this?
Speaker 02It wasn't me, it was my period.
Speaker 01Can't be blamed. I just imagine that in law in the courts, that they would have to come up with something different just for the period. That would only be if it was men. Yeah.
Speaker 02Of course. Yeah, but women would just go to jail or get like, I don't know, maybe um lobotomies would like stop. Wait, no. Would have lasted another 20 years.
Speaker 01They would put it down there instead of up here.
Speaker 02To be fair, sorcery power, you know, just take it away.
Speaker 01Just take it away. God, we'll be dissected like aliens. I mean, they've already done it, like yeah. And then they've figured out the truth that we don't actually have any powers. Yep. Who knows?
Speaker 02Well, we will circle back. Cool. So the next section is myths from around the world. Yeah. So we've kind of touched on a bit of like ancient Roman Greek and then just kind of the West, like Christianity, and like yeah.
Speaker 01Yeah, so this one is Portugal. Women who are on their period are possessed by an evil spirit. The spirit resides in her blood.
Speaker 02Um this would be a good one for the court. It was not me, it was my evil spirit.
Speaker 01Blame it on the spirit. Uh and basically the blood can do either good or harm. Yeah. Uh sexuality again, like the evil spirit may affect its entry into the woman in the form of a bird or a lizard or a serpent. It goes off her hoo-ha, basically. Yep. Yeah. I I will admit none of that have gone in my hoo-ha before. Um speak for yourself. I know I just keep giving away my secrets. It was the serpent that married the primordial?
Speaker 02Yeah.
Speaker 01Bliss of Eden in Portugal. Women during periods wear drawers to prevent the access of lizards. Yeah. Cut them off at the source. Yeah, I mean you might as well just wear a chastity cage at that point, to be fair.
Speaker 02A lizard chastity cage.
Speaker 01Every now and again you just hear a ding and they're just trying to get up there.
Speaker 02I wonder what the stats are on that so you like swallows four spiders a year.
Speaker 01How many bears you had in your child?
Speaker 02Somebody said at least one.
Speaker 01Like at least one. Um how do I say the kefir tribes of South Africa? When women are on their period, they mustn't drink milk, for if she does, the cow just dies. Of course. It makes sense. Well, what had that happen? Exactly. It's why we don't live in a half uh live on a farm. Even the maidens who attend to the girl at her first cycle are forbidden to drink milk.
Speaker 02Because it's catching. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 01You catch it, it's like a fucking disease or something. Um their cows will die as well. Seclu seclusion?
Speaker 02Yeah.
Speaker 01Seclusion of the woman from the cattle.
Speaker 02So she's not even allowed near the cows. Nah, mate.
Speaker 01Can't do limits.
Speaker 02I mean at that point, is it not just easier just never to drink milk? You know, if you've got these rules full. Yeah. That's nice. But like it's saying about they're not allowed to drink milk like twice the length of time of their period after their period. So is that not like three weeks? Like you'd only be allowed to drink milk like one week a month at that point.
Speaker 01Correct, yeah. So, like, what's the point? Just They need the calcium now. See, so yeah, um, the taboo on milk lasts a fortnight double the period. Yeah. So that's that's that's rough. That makes no sense to me because like, what if you're gonna eat some lamb?
Speaker 02Yeah. Lamb will die. I mean it's what it did eat at them. The mum sheep will die. I don't know. What about goat?
Speaker 01Like the goats milk? Mum will die? Maybe they don't have goats, I don't know. I just love how it just says cows. Yeah, it's just cows. And so what about everything else around? Why cows? Why does that make what? But in good news, according to the Cherokee, period of blood was a source of feminine strength and had the power to destroy enemies. So it's still good and bad again. Like I I'll destroy enemies, that's good in my yeah, yeah, totally. I'll just go to prison, but you know.
Speaker 02I don't know how if they catch you, they've proven it's you.
Speaker 01Well, the blood is on DNA.
Speaker 02Hi, but I don't think that's not like the weapon. I'm looking way too much in depth in this. To be fair, it could be, it could be just like chucking it on something. Because I'm just like gone fire or something.
Speaker 01Just lift up the skirt, just like you're ready. I'm trying to think. I'm just trying to think how you would do it. Just like a little prick of blood on you. It could be on like or just looking at them, giving them the fucking sh the poisonous vapor, yeah. Exactly. Um in Africa, period blood is used in the most powerful magic charms in order to both purify and destroy. Yep. Huh. Uh Mayan? Mayan. Mayan mythology explains the origin of period as a punishment for what is that word? Violating. Violating the social rules governing martial alliance. Marital alliance. Mar marital alliance.
Speaker 02So like marriage marriage.
Speaker 01We can't fucking help bleeding, mate. The period blood turns into snakes and insects used in black sorcery. Before the m mayor, my ma yes. Moon goddess is reborn from it.
Speaker 02Yeah. So is this thing you like create and destroy again? Like, and the snakes again. I find this so interesting. Like, this is where like the snake and the sin thing have come fate. Definitely.
Speaker 01Is like what women get in their periods, the reason there's evil in the world, you know, like you gotta blame it on something, you can't blame it on the wars or the poverty or the government. No, man, women, yeah, women. It always comes back to us. Right, so next bit, what are we talking about next?
Speaker 02So this is jumping forward on time. This is um to the 1920s. Um, pediatrician Dr. Bella Schick helped popularise the concept of menotoxin, um, which is a term for a substance menstruate in people, supposedly secreted, that could wilt flowers, give children asthma, and cause all sorts of female maladies. Um, he declared having confirmed his hypothesis since he had seen a bunch of flowers that had been given to his maid who was on her period wither after only a day. Um, David Mack corroborated his theory, adding to it that the blood, sweat, saliva, milk, and tears of a menstruating woman could be considered toxic fluids as well. Menotoxin has appeared in articles and letters published in the prominent scientific journal up until the 1970s. Which is when it fell out of favour.
Speaker 01Just wanna make it very important note that that is men conducting this. Yep. Cause they have periods, don't they? Yeah. Cause yeah, everything about women should just be done by men, and they should explain why our bodies do all this stuff and why we're the fucking devil apparently. Because like why why can't we do it? Will will we mess with the results? Will we deceive them?
Speaker 02Well, this is probably like there hasn't even been that many studies done at all in a female reproduction in general. Like when I was looking it up, so since the 70s, there's been 400 research papers done on female reproduction overall. That's it. Erectile dysfunction, only erectile dysfunction, no men's reproduction, no everything that comes with that under the umbrella, just erectile dysfunction has had 15,000 in the same time period. What we just don't know what's going on, they just haven't researched it at all. Like and the stuff that they have done in the past, fair enough, has just been toxic and wrong and has just continued to like add to this ongoing narrative of it being bad and dirty and unclean and yeah, like when there's no actual facts, we literally haven't read any basic even in modern times we don't have the facts because the research just isn't being done, yeah, yeah. Like or it's not being done enough.
Speaker 01That's there is some research being done, which we will circle onto in a bit, but but even that is shocking what we're gonna go over later on, where what we're up to in the stages of actually understanding periods and knowing that we don't have fucking powers or anything like that. Um it's still quite sad with how little we have um improved in our research and everything like that.
Speaker 02Like the taboo is still there, it just looks different now.
Speaker 01Yeah.
Speaker 02Um I found this really good quote from a paper in 1997 where it was saying people belonging to post-industrial society as of now. Um an aseptic, anemic one that is terrified of blood are reminded about other people's blood, never their own, only when it carries new unknown threats, uncontrollable diseases, danger and anxiety. The fear of contaminating the precious liquid, an ancient terror which has responded to, which was responded to through rituals of exclusion and purification, since menstrual blood was seen as an unclean carrier of corruption and evil, exercises a profound influence on modern imagination, which has attributed to hygiene regulations a social code of behaviour that replaces archaic taboos and religious precepts. So that's a big long winded thing. But what it's basically saying is that period blood is still seen as wrong and bad and evil, it's just now it's seen as unclean and unhygienic. Yeah, like people are still shamed about it, but they're just using a modern way of doing that by claiming. Minutes unclean and unhygienic and hidden and shameful and something people should not speak about, and it's still a taboo subject, basically. But it's just they're going about that a different way. And it's all about control at the end of the day.
Speaker 01Yeah. Like yeah. Um what year was this one?
Speaker 02So that was 2013, I believe. Um I'm raging that I had never heard about this. Like, for someone that keeps up with science news to an extent, like this was no something that was on my radar, and it's no something that I've heard anybody speak about, and it's revolutionary.
Speaker 01Yeah.
Speaker 02Like there is actually power in menstrual blood, just scientifically.
Speaker 01Yeah, scientifically. We can't kill a kid. Scientists in Japan have discovered that cells taken from period blood can be cultivated in the lab and used like stem cells to repair damaged heart tissue. Which is amazing. That's like so good. Like here's my period.
Speaker 02Like everybody is so accessible, like for all the ethical um kind of questions that are raised by stem cell research, this negates that. Like it just solves that issue, which is why I don't understand why this is no like front page news.
Speaker 01I know.
Speaker 02And why there hasn't been much else about it since then.
Speaker 01Yeah. Um yeah, the initial results of work were published in the journal stem cells. Uh stem cells can be used to repair damaged tissue because they have the potential to become any cell in the body. Which again is like, what?
Speaker 02Yeah. That's really wow. Which makes total sense. So I've not put this in the notes, but I was reading up a wee bit about like what we think. So this is again, we don't even know, which is ridiculous. But what the kinelid in series at the moment is and why we have a period and why um like our endometrial layer like in our womb sheds every month, is that basically the cells that make that up are made up of stem cells in preparation for like an embryo attaching, um, and they can then like bulk it out essentially and become like any cell in the body, which is why they're great for repairing things in other people because they're literally just like building blocks that we can use to make like any organ or repair any organ, like it's massive that this is something that's so accessible.
Speaker 01Yeah, it's not even on the back page or anything like that, like it's so not talked about. Uh yeah, it's however, while scientists are developing numerous uses for stem cells, getting a hold of them is not easy. And many harvesting techniques involve invasive procedures. So that's quite interesting.
Speaker 02Yeah, so as it stands at the moment, I think like the biggest um the most used source of stem cells is like umbilical cords.
Speaker 01Okay.
Speaker 02Um, or as as it had been previously, but I think it's been shut down in a lot of countries, it's been made illegal now. Like they were creating like embryos in a lab and using the stem cells from that to like research and like grow um and repair people's organs with. But understandable why that is a controversial subject that we'll probably not touch today. But um, this is like a non like this is like a new source of them that's like not exponential, but you know, like it's easily accessible and it's not involving anything unethical.
Speaker 01Yeah, yeah. Is there anything else in that you would like to include?
Speaker 02Um just that when they were doing I can't actually find the bit basically stem cells from Period blood are actually more effective than bone marrow still stem cells, so what they use at the moment. Um like getting your bone marrow taken hurts. Like I've heard that's like extremely painful and um I don't think it's something that you can just freely donate. Like I think it's something that you use a match, do you? It is matched, yeah, because I think it's the same as blood, but say like you can go and donate blood anytime. I don't think you can go and donate bone marrow. I think it's like they specifically look for a donor when someone needs it, so I don't know that it's as readily available for scientists as like I could be wrong on that, but anyway. Um they were a hundred times more successful than the stem cells taken from bone marrow.
Speaker 01Uh yeah, I think you can donate it. Oh, can you?
Speaker 02You didn't used to be as well. I don't know if you can do that here, because I know like donating eggs and sperm and stuff, you can't get paid for it.
Speaker 01Maybe that was before or you can't get paid for it, sorry. Yeah, you can't get paid for it. Just like you can't get paid for surrogacy and things, yeah. Which kind of sucks. Um yeah. So you'll need to stay in hospital for 48 hours and then a period of recovery at home for five up to five days.
Speaker 02Yeah, so it's quite an intense procedure. Yeah. Um I feel like the ones that they'll be using will probably be like dn like people donating their body signs and stuff, maybe. I don't know. I don't even know if there's active research going on in the UK at the moment with stem cells, because I know like it's been a kind of on again, off again thing for years. And it's not something I've heard about recently or looked up to be honest. But I'm sure it's something we can get back to in the future. So, and the same kind of field of research, slightly different. Um, in 2021, research Italian researcher researcher Federica Marinaro, um, her and a group of her peers at Spanish Research Centre completed a study on the anti-inflammatory abilities of menstrual stem cells, um, which are similar to those culled from umbilical cord, blood, or bone marrow, as we were discussing. Um, so the team submitted their paper to different journals for like anonymous peer review, um, which is common, and quite a few of the journals actually rejected it. Um oh, I meant to do this the other way around, but it's fine. So I was reading this out to Jason and I actually read the quote and got him to guess what year the quote was from because it's ridiculous this was in 2021. So one of the this is a prominent international science journal that peer reviewed this study and replied with. Um they rejected it on the basis of severe, undesirable, and toxic effects of menstrual blood and all its constituents on the human body. They wrote, even in all religions, it is well known that menstrual blood and its stem cells are extremely toxic and of very low quality. Um the reviewer continued, going on to suggest that women in some cultures use drops of menstrual blood to kill their husbands. This was a prominent scientific journal's response in 2021. Okay, so we can kill people with it. Yeah. It's still ongoing in some places. Like that's not one that's been shook off as of yet. Do you think it's even in the scientific community? Do you think it's like a venom?
Speaker 01Yeah, that's with like no no no, with like if you have like say say your husband or whatnot, he's afraid of you. He's afraid you're gonna kill you, kill him. I maybe we should bring this back. I know. But like he takes a sip of menstrual blood like every now and again just to work up his like immune system.
Speaker 02Yeah.
Speaker 01So like when you do fucking spike him, he's he's fine.
Speaker 02He's fine. Yeah.
Speaker 01Because you can do that with venom, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 02Yeah, you build up like a tolerance. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure like snake venom seals, not like the collector people do that, so that if they get bitten, they're not like yeah, yeah. Um multiple counts, uh councils? No, cultures, so weird. I would say Freud didn't slip, but I don't know where I was gone with that one.
Speaker 01Could you imagine the council families? Oh my god. It's like uh is a bit of blood gets your benefits.
Speaker 02So, in multiple cultures around the world, um mothers advise their sons not to accept any dark coloured food or drink from potential partners while they're dating because they believe that like drinking someone's menstrual blood makes you fall in love with them rather than kill them. So there's like two sides of the coin again. Um and apparently it's quite common for people to put like menstrual blood in people's like coffee and stuff like that when they're dating, like if they want to marry them. Like found multiple sources of this for like all over the world, like yeah.
Speaker 01Oh now you know. I've I've just got so many images in my head of just getting a moon cup or whatever they're called because I don't use them, and just being like, oh, it's your tea love.
Speaker 02Little love heart poof comes up the top of the coffee.
Speaker 01It's my love potion.
unknownOh my god.
Speaker 01Oh no, because that's a or it might kill you, you know.
Speaker 02You take take the gamble. Maybe it's if throwing a trade down there.
Speaker 01He's like I love you. Kind of tasty down there, right now oh that's good. But like, oh now that doing that just reminded me that you can just get um things to go up your hoo-ha to make it taste like a peach and stuff like that.
Speaker 02Oh yeah. Oh just just a little off topic. Not also just like yeast infection. Like, I feel like it was gonna be sweet much sugar, and that's bad.
Speaker 01Like is this where we do our own investigation?
Speaker 02Next week on the in the paddle.
Speaker 01We've got a video this time, is that?
Speaker 02Cool. I think the last thing was pretty much just um slightly off topic, but related to kind of the research side of things, the menstrual products were not actually tested with human blood until last year. Up until it was only saline solution, which has a total different consistency and hold like a pad can hold less saline solution than blood, which I find mad. I would have thought it would have been the other way around. Yeah, but apparently that in itself is an issue because it means that the pad can like soak up loads of blood so that you can't see if you're like bleeding heavy, which can obviously be like a sign of yeah.
Speaker 01Fair I've I've looked at my pad before and went, oh belly bleeding. Yeah, but it could just be it's fucking weighted. No, that's really interesting in the fact that one, a lot of men have just chatted shit about us. Yeah. And vapors, oh my god. So horrible. I'm gonna child.
Speaker 02No, not child, but like the next time something pusses me off. Just stare at him for a really long time. Just will it?
Speaker 01Can I imagine that? Just just being with you, or like Jason being with you as well. We're all just there. You're just staring at somebody, and we're just like, it's okay. It's fine.
Speaker 02Can I take on any word?
Speaker 01She won't harm ya, she won't harm ya. It's not that time of the month yet.
Speaker 02She's just preparing. No, it would need to be like the week before, you know, when you've like built up enough that you're just like, It's like Godzilla, you're powering off. Oh so I've missed a bit in my notes and I'm raging because I don't know where it's gone. But um there is currently a new product on the way out um that's been developed just now that is a period pad that has a section in it um that collects and stores blood for blood samples. Oh wow. Because this is like an untapped market, it's never been done. It's like a way of getting a blood sample from someone that's no invasive that um Do it in your own time. More information because obviously like the blood is moving through like your cervix and taking like wee um like cells and stuff with it on its way out, so it can actually hold a lot more information than just like a blood sample would, and would stop the need for smear tests because they would be able to use um like the sample to do like a smear test without actually having a smear tests aren't that like like they can be accurate, but I've heard of some of them not being as accurate, and it's terrifying for some people.
Speaker 01And like I I need to go get mine at some point.
Speaker 02I've never done it, it's terrible. I need to go. I'm just waiting on this new product coming out.
Speaker 01I'd rather do that because rather than somebody fishing around about who hat, it's gonna fucking hit.
Speaker 02I mean, I don't know exactly how they can be more accurate because it's actually taken from further up as well than just like a smear test would be because that's obviously just like the lining? Is it just like the entrance to your Chervix? I should probably know this before I'm talking about it, sorry.
Speaker 01Well we we I I believe we are most likely gonna do another podcast episode on periods and things, and how you can help your partner or partners with their period, how it can be more comforting and mood swings and what exercises and what not to do when on periods, so I'm pretty sure we're gonna do another episode on that and just expand more. This this was historical and a good laugh on that ridiculous this is Yeah, so it's just just from the cervix, which is obviously just like the entrance to your uterus, whereas like I'm pretty sure like I have a shite memory, but like I'm pretty sure when I was pregnant you would swipe the cervix to um get the fucking baby ready to come out and that and that hurt like a bitch, yeah. That hurt. I'm not look I'm not getting rid I'm I'm not no, that hurt.
Speaker 02Is that all about a smear test is as well? That's what it sounds like, yeah. Like they just like take a swab and like Yeah. But aye, so why why I was saying like it would be more accurate than that because the cells are coming from like actually inside your uterus, so it would give like a more accurate like reading of what's going on in there rather than just at the entrance to it.
Speaker 01Yeah, absolutely. Um I would well prefer that because at the cervix fuck it, that hurt. That hurt. I did that so many times because I did not want a baby in me no more. And it hurt.
Speaker 02But when the person who's creating this product first went to like other our colleagues and been like, why has this no been done before? Like, can I explore this? They told her no because they didn't want that skanky stuff in their machine. Oh so what the hell? Even one of our colleagues who works with like fecal tests was like test and feces thought period blood was disgusting and that they weren't gonna they didn't want to go down that route.
Speaker 01That that you'd rather play with shit than blood just from the vagina. Okay, okay, that that's not fair. Yeah, that makes no sense.
Speaker 02But this is why it's not been done, you know. Like people might be like, oh, there's probably nothing in it, and that's why it's not been looked at before, and it's like, no, it's literally just people's like opinions of things that have stopped like the progression of this, and it's nice that we're getting to the stage in 2024, yeah, which is wild, but I mean at least we're getting there of things starting to change, yeah. And people actually starting to explore.
Speaker 01Toissy, tootsy, tooty, tooty. Are you trapped? No. She might see a cat. What are you doing? She's looking out the window right now.
Speaker 02The retail's going.
Speaker 01Oh, that's fine. Uh yeah, but this has been our episode on periods. I'm pretty sure we've done quite uh nearly an hour.
Speaker 02Yeah. Yeah. I think we've covered the kind of the myths, the legends, and also the medical and stuff. Yeah, like there is actually power in period blood. We're just not at the stage you've been able to use it yet, but we're getting there.
Speaker 01Yeah, hopefully, hopefully. Hopefully, we don't get denied anymore. And it's not taboo, it's not stick stinky or whatever. It's natural, very, very natural. And I wish it wasn't such a taboo. And without it, none of us would be here. Yeah. Exactly. You're welcome. So the men who wrote all about this and things. Oh. So yeah, this has been behind the paddle. I don't know what episode this is now.
Speaker 02Five?
Speaker 01Five?
Speaker 02Yeah, five. Yeah.
Speaker 01It's been behind the paddle episode five about periods. Yeah. I am Post and Victoria.
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Speaker 01Yeah, lots of lovely toys. Um what was the other thing I was gonna mention? I think that's round about it. We can discuss in a future episode about going to Bitches Unleashed at some point, and I will be going to the Femdon Bowl. Um yeah, you are sponsoring! Nice, nice. Uh there is something else I wanted to talk about. I can't remember. Oh, yeah, we we will be yeah, that's fine. I was gonna say talk about our next episode, but this is going out on a thingy, so yeah. Yeah. We do go live on Instagram and Twitter when we do record these, so you can get like a first look and listen. Unedited. Yeah, unedited. And we will be putting videos up of us doing this on YouTube soon. Yeah, yeah. And If your lovely new couch and your lovely doggies, I know. I'll be putting wallpaper up and everything soon. Very, very happy. But yeah, this has been Behind the Paddle. Thank you for listening or watching.
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