SPEAKER_00 0:04

Right. Well, welcome to Behind the Powder Podcast with me, Paulson Victoria. Today I have a very special guest. And I don't know, I just thought about doing this episode. I don't know if I'll be able to air it on Spotify and everywhere. But it certainly will be going off on X. So I have a lovely son of mine who you can't see because they are in quite the predicament. And I'm just gonna do a casual episode and ask them questions. So right now we are using the Electricim Flux. Um, it's one of my favorite machines. I've spoken about this before. We will be doing, I don't know when I'm gonna edit this and air it, but there is now two episodes of Electrics, and yeah, it's really really great. As you can see, you can just move about with it and it'll stay connected. And what I'm using on it right now is the channel called Mike Microphone. It is how it sounds. So the higher I talk, the more noise I make, the more he gets shocked. So it's really really good for like predicament play. For like if they make a noise, then it's it's their fault. It's not my fault. Or any like sensory derivation, things like that, because if you block off their hearing as well, it's it's very, very fun. Right. So I call this sub pleaser. Um, because quite simply he tries to please me all the time. And how long have we just like been seeing each other?

SPEAKER_02 2:07

Um probably the best part about a year and a half now.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Yeah, it's been quite some time. It's been fun. We've had our ups and downs of like any just relationship in general. Um and yeah. When you first wanted to go to a mistress, what did you think?

SPEAKER_02 2:34

Um, I had to do some research to start with. Um obviously you've gone it started off with porn watching and seeing what kind of stuff I'd been into. Um then got into doing the research of who's local and uh your name came up more often than not. Uh so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

I mean, I don't even know if I'm gonna post this, but this is just what I wanted to do today. I had what three sessions a day, and I somehow have like injured my ankle, so it's swollen, so I can't really do stuff. So I thought, you know what, we'll hook him up with just the machine. So what were your first impressions of me?

SPEAKER_02 3:29

Um I was scared to start with, and then as soon as we went and we discussed what we were doing, uh you put me at ease. So but yeah, when you first opened the door, you were breathtaking, and uh I was blown away.

SPEAKER_00 3:46

You're being such a pleaser right now. Um, what were you most afraid of?

SPEAKER_02 3:58

Um I don't I didn't know what to expect. Like when you opened the door, um like I'd I'd give you a list of stuff we could try. Um obviously being very, very new to this. I didn't know what I was stepping into. Um can we come up into the workroom and uh straight away you like went and cut off and that that took me back. I was like, okay, it's fucking real now.

SPEAKER_00 4:26

Uh I I don't so I didn't tell him what I was doing, he had no idea, just just with today, he had no idea that I was gonna uh plan to have him on all fours and answer questions. I just thought this would be honestly quite entertaining and comedic for myself. He has been outrageously bratty recently, and I was like, nah, a simple caning. No, that that no, it needs to be something more. So I'm getting his brain working as well as other body parts as well. What would you say was one of the things that you really wanted to try?

SPEAKER_02 5:33

Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 5:35

I I cannot be Jesus. I have a nun, latex nun outfit. But not Jesus. I don't do that. But I can work some miracles.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Yeah, I'll notice that. Um first one did I try.

SPEAKER_02 6:02

That was that the question Yeah, what did you want to try most? Um did I ask for restraints the first time?

SPEAKER_00 6:18

It was that long ago. Uh probably.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Because like restrain like even now restraints is a big thing. So probably restraints. Um restraints, uh what else did I do? Chastity. Uh I enjoy chastity.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

And how long have you been in chastity for?

SPEAKER_02 6:43

July, I think, in total.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

Last July.

SPEAKER_02 6:47

Okay, last July.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

It is now August. Oh my gosh. I think it's like is it the 6th 15th of August, something like that right now? Yeah, 2026, and you've been in since July 2025. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

We started open sessions, but then I think we tried October and then Oh yes, we did. And then uh I think that's when I got you the key. Oh, you asked for the key.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

Yes, I asked for like a very cutesy um custom key. It's very cute. It's hanging up in my bedroom. But we we go to quite a few events together, don't we? Now it's it's very fun. We are going to curve, which is an event in Glasgow, and it's going to be your first curve. Are you nervous?

SPEAKER_02 7:47

A lot of it, yeah. Don't know what to expect.

SPEAKER_00 7:51

Yeah, I didn't know how to exactly explain curve. It's just where people play, but it's not like crazy or anything like that. It's quite mellow and chill, and there are dungeon masters around and watching all the scenes and things like that. And if you do want to do a scene, then you go up to the dungeon master and explain what you're gonna do, and if it's within the rules um of what you're going to do, then you can do it. Um, we are going the FemDom ball in October, aren't we?

SPEAKER_01 8:26

Yes, yes, we are, Mrs.

SPEAKER_02 8:29

Yes, Mashes, we are.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

Uh that's always fun. That's always really, really fun. I get to dress up in a lovely little ball gown. And you're gonna be wearing your kilt and stuff, aren't you? Yes, masses. So what else? What would you say to somebody who is nervous about seeing a dominatrix?

SPEAKER_02 8:58

Um there's always gonna be nerves there. But until you ah until you actually uh make the booking and then attend like see where you when I first entered I nervous to start with, but within minutes I was put at ease. So I would imagine that any other dominatrix is gonna be the same, but I don't know, there's a ah you're the one with the dominatrix I've seen, so I can't exactly speak for experience.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

I was gonna say you're promoting other dominatrixes. I mean that's totally fair, but ooh, what do you most like um as me being a mistress?

SPEAKER_02 9:54

Your looks.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

Oh my looks, okay. Interesting. Anything else?

SPEAKER_02 10:01

The body.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

Oh man. This is a real insight into a man's mind. Not my skills, no no no no, just my looks. Really? What would you say the attributes you look for in a mistress?

SPEAKER_02 10:27

Aye, lived experiences.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

I'm pretty much sure you've done you've tried all yeah, so on your website you had a long list of stuff to pick from, so ooh, could you explain the because I I think we have definitely molded flowed into doing sessions and then more lifestyle. Yeah. What do you what do you think about that?

SPEAKER_02 11:08

Yeah, I quite enjoy it.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

Do you think there is quite a big difference?

SPEAKER_02 11:13

Yeah. Big difference.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

In what ways?

SPEAKER_02 11:18

Well sessions. Um it's over in a couple of years. Lifestyle. You get to live it a lot more. You get to You get to experience it, you know, you get to do things that in a short amount of time you couldn't possibly do. Um I still remember what you I'm pretty sure you were wearing that dress first session. Sure it was, because you they knee high boots on as well. And then when I said I wanted to do foot wash up when to start with foot worship, you say lick my heel, and then lick my heel, and then you put the fucking heel with the roof of my mouth and push forward with your foot. Um you push push a heel right through the roof of my mouth and you like keep sucking it, and I was like, oh great, okay. And then you took your boots off, made me wash up your feet. What else? I think we tried plugs that day as well.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

We tried what?

SPEAKER_02 12:44

Uh plugs. Got plugs. That was the first time you said uh the first session was when we tried chastity, you told me to get my own.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

Yes, yes. It's always great if you have your own because it's not one size fits all. I feel like we have both like experienced that.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

Right, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

And there's a lot of yeah, breakages and cheap ones and not so good ones. Even if they have like the most aggressive marketing you've seen, they still might not be great, the chastity cages.

SPEAKER_01 13:27

So how did you feel after the session? Honestly.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Ecstatic. And then I think this is back to your f your other question. Um how I feel now it would be in a lifestyle sub first session. I felt like Jack the Lad as if yes, I've just I've just experienced that. Now it's it's more it's more I can't wait to be back here to help to either help out and do more stuff for you.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

What does being a submissive actually mean to you now?

SPEAKER_02 14:16

Enjoy it, to be honest. Now it's like anything you want me to do, I'll more or less do it to an extent.

SPEAKER_00 14:29

To an extent.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

I didn't expect this to do, no.

SPEAKER_00 14:34

I think when it comes to lifestyle stubbing, um dominants have the responsibility of making sure you are safe and healthy, both physically and mentally, especially. Um yeah, and especially like financial-wise and things like that. And we a good dominant in my eyes should want the best for their sub, no matter what.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

Yeah, I'd agree.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

To start with, I was buying you crazy stuff, and then you're like, you don't need to get out and buy it like that. It's something simple would work, but then I still do an odd occasion, I'll go and buy you saying stupid, and you're like, well, thanks very much.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

Stupid isn't like expensive, right? Or just silly?

SPEAKER_02 15:28

It could be silly or it could be expensive.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

You know, but I think no matter your mum just messaged. What are you online to? Because I've sent you you the WhatsApp questions. I I've sent you questions on WhatsApp.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

I'm bored. That's what she says. Fuck you. Oh god.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Ooh, after we had sessions and I would say get got more of a connection when did it feel like I wasn't simply just the person you booked?

SPEAKER_02 16:12

Good question. Um It was after I again it was after the session that we'd done we'd done a session, I can't remember what it was you asked me to do. I think I was take stuff down to the shops or take stuff to a charity shop.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

Oh most likely, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:35

And then I think after that he says uh I I think was it oh was it was that and then it was the you asked me to come up and uh do the fabric on the ceiling?

SPEAKER_00 16:49

Was it not yeah, yeah. I have a lot of DI projects I know So at any point did your expectations of me change I I am not Elaborate Elaborate See I I obviously you want to edit us, but when you let your guard down No but ah Yeah Quest again please Did your expectations of me change?

SPEAKER_02 17:42

No No and yes Expand I can't I can't because expand expectations change Right Did your expectations change? I my expectations will change because is that when when I started becoming a lifestyle I expected it I know I'm expected to do more for you if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

Yeah, yeah. I think that goes along with what we mentioned previously, where I every so often I will get lifestyles, well, I will get subs, quotation marks, message me and say they want to be like 24-7 or they want to be mine. I've already had like two or three this month, and they'll either go quiet after I say to them, like you will still have to pay me because I don't know you. Um and I I just don't know you, and we just have to start from the beginning, and I don't think they realize how hard it can be as a lifestyle sub as well, and they have to have those qualities of actually caring and being selfless because a lot of subs who I've seen before, especially ones who do want to be lifestyle subs, are doing it for themselves. Where they want a reward after doing the simplest of things, or they want a long scene afterwards, and that's just not really how lifestyle works, at least not in my version of lifestyle.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

It takes a lot of research into not research into being a lifestyle sub, but it's took me a lot of research into knowing your likes, dislikes, you know, if I for even for gifts or even for just like if you wanted to get your stuff at the store, even how it's something simple as how you like your tea in the moments, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 19:59

Yeah, it's the little things, absolutely. And the other day I had somebody who was absolutely infatuated with me, and it was the second session, and they were actually 10 minutes late, and they wanted to also date me as well as be my sub. And I said to them, like, I like little gifts, even if it's like a packet of sweets or something, it means that you thought about me and you showed effort, and you went out your way to go get me a little gift, and this man turned up turned up empty-handed, and he genuinely wanted a relationship, at least that's what he stated, but I was trying to get to know him, and he just wanted to do sexual things, so there is just a massive difference between like fantasy and real life, and yeah, there's loads of different expectations of what certain people want, and some people have quite exceptional fantasies which they want to put into real life, and it's gonna be really, really hard to achieve that.

SPEAKER_02 21:22

Um after the first couple of sessions, it started off with well, you asked me what we wanted to do, and then the more comfortable we got with each other, you kind of knew my likes, dislikes, and then it's became gradually into doing you know it's whatever you want to do. It's the end of the day I'm here to be submissive to you, so it's n in a sense it's not up to me what we do. Um and it could be s it could be sound selfish to put it all on you going right, it's up to you what what what we're doing in this session. But as a lifestyle sub, it's it's it's a lot different because I can just focus on Well you won't done.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

Have you ever caught yourself behaving differently because you thought what would she expect from me?

SPEAKER_02 22:12

Hundred percent. My mannerisms have changed.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

Oh yeah? Give me an example. Gonna make you think I'm the spot now.

SPEAKER_01 22:29

I think I was quite harsh. Like a year and a half ago. Now I'm more not carefree, but like explain really. I'm more dis or this. I'm not as up tight as I used to be.

SPEAKER_02 22:57

I'm not uh like self-conscious anymore.

SPEAKER_00 23:00

Mm, I do think you've changed. I think you became more open as well. But nicer. Less of a lad's lad, like stereotypical lad's lad, I think.

SPEAKER_02 23:09

Well as I said, like first session, uh like I left here thinking was Jack the lad, went to work the next day and all that, and I'm not necessarily run in and meant, uh guess what I've done yesterday, but like uh I stood with my my shoulders taller and now I'm like it's like when the checks, even when you check me.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

So what he means by that is I send him a message saying check and he has to reply within a certain amount of time, otherwise he's in deep shit and he gets punishment. But he has to show me that he is still in chastity, so he has to show me a a live picture and within a certain amount of time.

SPEAKER_02 23:51

Yeah. Um when we first started doing it, like not necessarily doing it out in the open, but like I would do it in like a what I thought was like a like a sneaky not a sneaky way, what's the word? What's the word wiper? I I I know exactly what what photo it was, you know, as well, because you you fucking punished me for it. Um I took a photo, but there was nobody could see me see what I was doing. But you you told me like don't fucking involve other people.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

Yeah, I don't involve other people because they didn't consent. And the consent is a big thing, so yeah, for for me, like I do like public play, I I really do, but it's I'm I'm very big on other people consenting. I know with social media these days you see so many DOMs out in public, and I I don't like that personally because both the DOM and the submissive are getting off on what is happening, and I didn't consent to being a essentially a tool in you getting off and getting turned on. I I didn't consent to that. Um yeah, because I would say that you are the majority of the time around what you would stereotypic call manly men, and very much I don't know if they have testosterone, I'll be honest. But they act all macho and things. So I think that's one of the first things which I learned about you, which was like you're not really in the greatest environment, I would say, and I feel like that can get it in your head. Like, how do I say this? I don't I don't really mean it, it's not like you've incorporated that into your personality because you've been around it for so long, and I think with you seeing me, I think I've kind of changed you in the way of like these guys are twats, like um, and I I guess opened you up to like what women deal with and how women deal with men who are what toxic masculinity and things like that. And I think I've told you like what women do find attractive, and you know, it you don't need to be this big macho man or anything like that, um, or do drugs and drink and party and all that stuff to have a good time, especially.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

I mean, like last weekend I wasn't here. Nancy do, so end up just drinking. But when I'm here with you, I'm focused on doing other things, I'm I'm more happy doing stuff for you than I would be just sitting drinking with my mates.

SPEAKER_00 27:03

He's not an alcoholic either. Let me just put that out there. He doesn't drink every weekend or anything like that madly. Would you say your alcohol intake has like went down?

SPEAKER_02 27:14

Yeah. Yeah. I do again, I prefer it I've been up here than sitting drinking.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

Hmm. Would you say that I am a good impact on your life?

SPEAKER_02 27:28

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

How would you suggest to somebody to actually approach a DOM? Whether that be lifestyle or professional?

SPEAKER_02 27:40

Be respectful. Do your research. Like before I first came to see you, um obviously I went on and I'd seen you on X to start with, and then obviously I went on to uh adult work and stuff. And then seen your profile. And then I seen that you had your own website. So it made sense to check your website out, check that out, and you do stipulate if you want to make a booking, do it through your website. That's what I've done. That's what and although your your number and that was on Adultwork. I went through a different means by emailing you. And I you've taken the time to build a website, so why not use the tools that you're providing?

SPEAKER_00 28:38

When have you felt most proud to be to be my submissive?

SPEAKER_02 28:45

The ball.

SPEAKER_00 28:46

Yeah, that's what I thought you were gonna say as well.

SPEAKER_02 28:50

Out of all the DOMs there, and this is the truth, out of all the DOMs there, many beautiful women in dominatories. I couldn't get my eyes off you.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

And that is what you want in a submissive who is just like solely dedicated to you. I mean, there are other like I think when we're going to curve, if you wanna play with other people, I'll let you play with other people if you want, because you're not specifically collared to me or anything like that. But there would also be like a talk beforehand. I'm not just gonna walk into a room and he's like getting fucking whipped or some shit by somebody else. There with quite a lot of things. I mean, even with going to the ball, where what was it that I found out that happened? Was it another was it a mistress asked you for a drink or something like that? What was it?

SPEAKER_02 29:48

Something or my mask, take my mask off.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

Oh yeah, and a mistress told him to take his mask off. So for the ball, you the subs have to keep their mask on for I think it's at least an hour or two hours. But I wanted him wanted him to like keep it on until I explicitly told him to take it off. And it it really rubs me the wrong way when other people, especially mistresses, try to command other subs. It's like, no, no, he's mine, he's my property.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

We did say that at the end of the ball. I did see we had the conversation and uh what happens if somebody else says do this, and you told me not directly, me just say go see uh Porcel Victoria.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

Yeah, yeah, because I've had it before where mistresses, especially if they are in charge of the event, have commanded my subs to like go buy them a drink or something. No. For me personally, it's not that my sub is going to obey every mistress, no, they're only gonna obey me. I have well we I think most mistresses have their own approach to how they treat their own submissives and how they treat other submissives. Me personally, I'm still gonna treat everybody with respect. The subs for me, I can see your ass clapping. I have the electric pads on his ass. So yeah, I see subs as equal in a way, and then once we have talked about boundaries, consent, limits, all that stuff, if they like degregation, humiliation, then that can come into play. But for me, they are equal overall, in a way, but I mean men just in general are just lower than women, but that's a different story. Do you ever find yourself wanting boundaries or expectations even when a part of you resists them? So, like, do you ever feel that you should have more boundaries or certain boundaries? Or do you ever think that there are expectations of what I should be doing as a mistress or what you should be doing as a sub?

SPEAKER_01 32:29

Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Boundaries Well, I wasn't there with the the likes and the dislikes, so boundaries mean you uh like we know each other's boundaries now, so I I know your dislikes and likes and I try to cater for that. Um expectations.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

Uh you expect me a be here on time. Uh like if I say I'm gonna be here at eight, I'll be here at fucking quarter two. You know, um if I'm taking you anywhere, uh I know to get you food, water and the car, ready to go.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

Food, water, my fucking dog.

SPEAKER_02 33:23

Snacks and you know, drinks and stuff. Um expectations for you, no. Uh I fully I come up here expecting to do whatever you ask me to do, whether that be I don't know, wash the mirrors, you know, paint a fence, you know, it's uh I'm I'm here uh more or less do what you want, so so th this is probably one which I'm gonna answer as well.

SPEAKER_00 33:56

Can somebody obey without actually being submissive?

SPEAKER_02 34:01

Can somebody obey without being submissive? Let me give an example.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

Well, what I would have said to this is while that's it's such a broad what's the word for your word but it's such a broad spectrum, the just the word obey, because technically a lot of people obey, whether that be we're obeying in our jobs, capitalism, or we're obeying by doing what society wants us to do. So, say for example, when it comes to the expectations of women, so like our body hair, are we obeying the order of society where we are giving in to like people potentially bullying us online or just society where you know women are shaving, or we are looking the a different way because society has made us feel not okay about the way we look. So, I mean, yeah, you don't have to be submissive to obey, it's such a you can talk about the word obey in so many different areas of life where it's capitalism society, where it is in BDSM, or just in vanilla relationships, where you're obeying to do like the chores, or you're obeying your partner in they asked you to give them a foot massage. I mean, you should never ask for a foot massage in the first place. That's absolutely horrendous. But you get what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

I've got all for your foot massage.

SPEAKER_00 36:08

Well, I have got a fucked ankle, so I don't really want to. I don't know what I've done with it, but it's so swollen. But the other foot's fine, but but I instead wanted to do this.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

Go to that seither obey the beam without submitting thing. I've sub I've came.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

Yeah, you have came, yeah. Rarely.

SPEAKER_02 36:35

I don't know. How could I wonder? I could have wondered. So I've seen you in many attire tonight. Whether that be uh full latex ballgown birthday suit ah you know what you've done.

SPEAKER_01 36:59

Carry on.

SPEAKER_02 37:00

Whether it'd be bulky in a birthday suit, um But I think I could I could submit to you whether you know, you could be curled up on the couch with fucking you know, a onesy on, with fucking snort running in your face and a fucking hanky in your hand. And if you said to me go and do this, I'm still gonna go and do it.

SPEAKER_00 37:23

Mm-hmm. That's a good point. Ooh, this is a good one. You're gonna have to think about this one for a while.

SPEAKER_01 37:29

It's a good answer.

SPEAKER_00 37:34

Where does your independent identity end and your submissive identity begin, or don't you see them as separate?

SPEAKER_02 37:47

Independent identity. So where do I go from my normal life to to being pleaser? Essentially.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

Essentially, yeah, or do you see them as the same person?

SPEAKER_02 38:00

Same person.

SPEAKER_00 38:01

Yeah, I agree. I agree with that definitely.

SPEAKER_02 38:05

Because even even outside of not seeing you, I'm still thinking of ways to please me. Please you essentially I essentially please you, but make your life better, if that makes sense. Make it easier.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

If a dominant and they're submissive get into a fight or an argument, or a type of rut, what advice would you give?

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Don't do what I did.

SPEAKER_00 38:41

Um what did you do? You've just opened up this Pandora's box.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

Nearly ended it between his dinner?

SPEAKER_00 38:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 38:56

Ghosted you, made you worry about what I was up to about my welfare. Not letting you know how I was. To be fair, I actually blocked myself with everybody.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

That was It was it was stuff outside of us that started it and then I think I used I'm almost used you as an escapegoat.

SPEAKER_02 39:29

I kind of tried to put the blame onto you, but it's not, it was all my own fault.

SPEAKER_01 39:35

Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00 39:42

So would your advice be communicate open communication, don't you shut yourself off?

SPEAKER_01 39:48

Right.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

I think now bro myself and you are a lot better at it. Well communication.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

Okay, yeah. Yeah. Language barriers a bit fucking hard because Yeah, you're fucking god awful fucking Scottish people. If I suddenly said you don't have to do any of this anymore, how would you how would you feel?

SPEAKER_02 40:18

Yeah. Because I've already made the I've already told you if me and you stopped this I I don't I'm I'm walking away from BDSM. I'm walking away from that you are the be all and end all of it.

SPEAKER_00 40:43

Has submission ever exposed an insecurity you'd rather not have discovered?

SPEAKER_02 40:54

An insecurity a bit more what do you think?

SPEAKER_00 41:13

I think opening up you've definitely opened up more and I think maybe you were a bit insecure about that in the first place. Especially when it had to cane the fuck out of your foot to make you actually have any emotion. Because there was one point where you were very closed up and I was like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

SPEAKER_02 41:33

Yeah, stuff happened, stuff happened uh outside of us.

SPEAKER_00 41:38

And uh no, that is a good that is a good point because I think that goes with the whole toxic masculinity and not showing your feelings and just bottling it up and everything like that.

SPEAKER_02 41:51

I was a closed book wrestling. Sorry, you go up in the week. Uh I think I was a closed book.

SPEAKER_00 41:58

Yeah, I think you definitely have opened up more. Um, especially with like just you being you. And it's it's really nice to see like just you opening up and talking about your feelings and having like good communication with things.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

If I bought it all up then I hold not it, it's just festivals, if that makes sense, you know, uh and not telling you my feelings could potentially hurt hurt the relationship.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

You know, yeah, absolutely. So we did actually film about 10 minutes uh more of this, but my film went off. Which I'm so annoyed at. So we'll probably pick this up at another point, maybe less distractions, yeah, but we'll see. Oh, but I do wanna actually just add the part about communication is a massive big factor in a sub-dom relationship, no matter what, whether it is professional or lifestyle. Yeah, we will come back with part two at some point with this. Maybe tomorrow. Who knows? But this has been Behind the Bad Podcast with me, Paulson Victoria. If you like, then follow, share, like, give us a review. And yeah, we'll see you next week.

unknown 43:43

Bye.